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		<title>By: plus size</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-17092</link>
		<dc:creator>plus size</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keep up the good work..</description>
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		<title>By: Links à la Mode: IFB Weekly Roundup &#124; Independent Fashion Bloggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links à la Mode: IFB Weekly Roundup &#124; Independent Fashion Bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plus Size Expert</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-7481</link>
		<dc:creator>Plus Size Expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a size 4 and I have covered the Plus Size industry for the past 4 years as an editor. This article is spot on and every point these ladies make is valid and truthful. There are a lot of aspects that go into designing plus size clothing a lot of reasons why they are not made. There are additional costs of hiring a plus size fit model and &quot;minimums&quot; required to actually produce a line that retailers are not meeting. Additionally, the plus size customer has not had the offerings that the straight size girl has had and therefore, the general population of plus size gals are not comfortable testing out new bodies that the straight size girl wouldn&#039;t think twice about. I know this last statement is a generalization, but look at the vintage tee-shirt program that they tried to initiate.. need I say more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a size 4 and I have covered the Plus Size industry for the past 4 years as an editor. This article is spot on and every point these ladies make is valid and truthful. There are a lot of aspects that go into designing plus size clothing a lot of reasons why they are not made. There are additional costs of hiring a plus size fit model and &#8220;minimums&#8221; required to actually produce a line that retailers are not meeting. Additionally, the plus size customer has not had the offerings that the straight size girl has had and therefore, the general population of plus size gals are not comfortable testing out new bodies that the straight size girl wouldn&#8217;t think twice about. I know this last statement is a generalization, but look at the vintage tee-shirt program that they tried to initiate.. need I say more.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion&#8217;s Big Moments &#171; of black memories and white spaces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fashion&#8217;s Big Moments &#171; of black memories and white spaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks at 39thandbroadway.com had a spot-on answer - size 20 bandage dresses don&#8217;t sell. LA times ran a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fashion Industry &#38; Skinny Bitches &#124; 39thandbroadway.com</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-6617</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Industry &#38; Skinny Bitches &#124; 39thandbroadway.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as our celebrities and fashion models are becoming skinner than ever, the average American woman is fatter than ever before.  The average American woman is now 164 lbs and barely 5&#8242;4&#8243;.  We [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kaley</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-5074</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, the posts about people putting down the fork just pissed me off.  I am fat and I am not healthy (Type 1 diabetes) HOWEVER, why should I stop thinking about how I look or where my clothes come when all I want to do is try to live in the body that I have right now?  Instead of obsessing about what I may or may not look like 5 years from now or however long it takes to lose a significant amount of weight, don&#039;t you think it would benefit me to try and love what I have to work with now?  I deserve clothes, just like anyone else.  I deserve everything that any skinny broad thinks she deserves, and there isn&#039;t anyone on this planet, fashion designer or not, who has the right to tell me otherwise.  I&#039;ll drop my fork when you drop your biased attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, the posts about people putting down the fork just pissed me off.  I am fat and I am not healthy (Type 1 diabetes) HOWEVER, why should I stop thinking about how I look or where my clothes come when all I want to do is try to live in the body that I have right now?  Instead of obsessing about what I may or may not look like 5 years from now or however long it takes to lose a significant amount of weight, don&#8217;t you think it would benefit me to try and love what I have to work with now?  I deserve clothes, just like anyone else.  I deserve everything that any skinny broad thinks she deserves, and there isn&#8217;t anyone on this planet, fashion designer or not, who has the right to tell me otherwise.  I&#8217;ll drop my fork when you drop your biased attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: LA Pretty &#187; IFB Links a la Mode</title>
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		<dc:creator>LA Pretty &#187; IFB Links a la Mode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-4757</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathryn: No, but there are generally some men involved in the design of menswear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathryn: No, but there are generally some men involved in the design of menswear.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as probably the only one commenting so far who has designed plus size clothing, I say bravo to 39thandbroadway for bringing a dose of reality to this subject. They just hit on the tip of the iceberg but did it well. What is astounding to me is the ignorance and nastiness I see from some of the plus size consumers commenting here. The idea that I must look a certain way in order to do my job is appaling. So by your standards only men should design menswear and what children should design childrens clothing? This is a proffession which I went to college for, I do not need fat rolls to know how to cut a pattern for them any more then I need a penis to spec the rise in mens trousers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as probably the only one commenting so far who has designed plus size clothing, I say bravo to 39thandbroadway for bringing a dose of reality to this subject. They just hit on the tip of the iceberg but did it well. What is astounding to me is the ignorance and nastiness I see from some of the plus size consumers commenting here. The idea that I must look a certain way in order to do my job is appaling. So by your standards only men should design menswear and what children should design childrens clothing? This is a proffession which I went to college for, I do not need fat rolls to know how to cut a pattern for them any more then I need a penis to spec the rise in mens trousers!</p>
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		<title>By: marjorie</title>
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		<dc:creator>marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow!!hot post for hot fashhion,well if you want hot fashion in hot summer <a href="http://appareldeal.com" rel="nofollow">wholesale apparel clothing</a> will suit you, at lowest price you can purchased fashionable and quality fashion style..</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-4735</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally: I don&#039;t know where the Industry advertises when it&#039;s promoting new stores, but for the plus-size market fashion magazines aren&#039;t the whole picture.  I&#039;d suggest plus-size fashion blogs, short television slots on Lifetime and TLC (during the makeover shows, &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; the &quot;500 Pound Lady&quot;), slots on &quot;Oprah&quot; and &quot;The View&quot;, teen fashion magazines (hook&#039;em while they&#039;re young), YouTube, viral marketing...

And also: How do we get some natural fibers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally: I don&#8217;t know where the Industry advertises when it&#8217;s promoting new stores, but for the plus-size market fashion magazines aren&#8217;t the whole picture.  I&#8217;d suggest plus-size fashion blogs, short television slots on Lifetime and TLC (during the makeover shows, <i>not</i> the &#8220;500 Pound Lady&#8221;), slots on &#8220;Oprah&#8221; and &#8220;The View&#8221;, teen fashion magazines (hook&#8217;em while they&#8217;re young), YouTube, viral marketing&#8230;</p>
<p>And also: How do we get some natural fibers?</p>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make things clear to y&#039;all, I&#039;m 5&#039;3&quot; and the likelihood of me getting to 135 is about the same as the likelihood of Clay Aiken finding the right girl.  So this whole &quot;OMG people should lose weight!&quot; thing is all well and good but it kind of ignores the fact that some people are doomed to be fat unless they become prisoners of war.

First off, are there any women above a size 10 on most retailers&#039; design teams?  I&#039;ve got a feeling that a size 12 would be able to make better plus-size clothing than a size 2.  But that&#039;s just me.

Secondly, why did Old Navy go online-only for plus sizes?  I can see how some stores would be pretty small and not have the space, but you can&#039;t tell me that the three-story store on State Street in Chicago or the five-story flagship in Manhattan can&#039;t spare a corner for larger jeans.  

Finally: What kinds of focus groups does the industry use, and where are they located?  For larger women, I&#039;d suggest using focus groups in Chicago and in the south as well as in New York and Los Angeles.  (Hell, I&#039;d suggest that for all sizes, but God knows Chicagoans and Southerners are fatter than average.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make things clear to y&#8217;all, I&#8217;m 5&#8242;3&#8243; and the likelihood of me getting to 135 is about the same as the likelihood of Clay Aiken finding the right girl.  So this whole &#8220;OMG people should lose weight!&#8221; thing is all well and good but it kind of ignores the fact that some people are doomed to be fat unless they become prisoners of war.</p>
<p>First off, are there any women above a size 10 on most retailers&#8217; design teams?  I&#8217;ve got a feeling that a size 12 would be able to make better plus-size clothing than a size 2.  But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>Secondly, why did Old Navy go online-only for plus sizes?  I can see how some stores would be pretty small and not have the space, but you can&#8217;t tell me that the three-story store on State Street in Chicago or the five-story flagship in Manhattan can&#8217;t spare a corner for larger jeans.  </p>
<p>Finally: What kinds of focus groups does the industry use, and where are they located?  For larger women, I&#8217;d suggest using focus groups in Chicago and in the south as well as in New York and Los Angeles.  (Hell, I&#8217;d suggest that for all sizes, but God knows Chicagoans and Southerners are fatter than average.)</p>
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		<title>By: Riana</title>
		<link>http://www.39thandbroadway.com/fashions-plus-size-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-3532</link>
		<dc:creator>Riana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own perspective in all this from a seasoned shopper. 

1. Plus size lines don&#039;t sell because the majority are fairly ugly. Blunt? Oh yes, but true. There&#039;s always unfallibly a flaw in skinny women designing clothes for plus sized girls. They pick patterns they THINK will look good, cuts they THINK flatter, and styles they THINK women will love and then pout and wonder why they don&#039;t. 

Plus sized women don&#039;t want your flowy tops nor your inexplicably tight across the tummy tops. We know what we want, what looks good, and how we want to look to others. 

2. Cost is everything. If a plus sized women can get it for cheaper and better elsewhere then she won&#039;t be stopping by your store. One of the reasons Torrid does so well is because they are more brave and do sell things most designers shy away from. Bright colored pants? Oh no! Corset tops? My God! They know most plus size women are comfortable with their bodies and don&#039;t wish to be relegated to the &#039;cute t-shirt&#039; field. Secondly their prices are fairly great and they also have fairly constant sales. 

3. If you&#039;re not selling...then the problem&#039;s with you. Sorry to be blunt about this but it&#039;s true. Admittedly there is a divide in appearance across a certain age range. Women who grew up feeling ashamed of their bodies will probably flock to bedsheet shirts with puppies and flowers on them. Women of the younger generation who have generally been treated well despite their weight want to be slightly more fashionable. Anyone in advertising and buisness knows you can sell anything so long as you go about it the right way. If you&#039;ve got a &#039;great&#039; product but it&#039;s staying on the shelves then you&#039;re doing something wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own perspective in all this from a seasoned shopper. </p>
<p>1. Plus size lines don&#8217;t sell because the majority are fairly ugly. Blunt? Oh yes, but true. There&#8217;s always unfallibly a flaw in skinny women designing clothes for plus sized girls. They pick patterns they THINK will look good, cuts they THINK flatter, and styles they THINK women will love and then pout and wonder why they don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Plus sized women don&#8217;t want your flowy tops nor your inexplicably tight across the tummy tops. We know what we want, what looks good, and how we want to look to others. </p>
<p>2. Cost is everything. If a plus sized women can get it for cheaper and better elsewhere then she won&#8217;t be stopping by your store. One of the reasons Torrid does so well is because they are more brave and do sell things most designers shy away from. Bright colored pants? Oh no! Corset tops? My God! They know most plus size women are comfortable with their bodies and don&#8217;t wish to be relegated to the &#8216;cute t-shirt&#8217; field. Secondly their prices are fairly great and they also have fairly constant sales. </p>
<p>3. If you&#8217;re not selling&#8230;then the problem&#8217;s with you. Sorry to be blunt about this but it&#8217;s true. Admittedly there is a divide in appearance across a certain age range. Women who grew up feeling ashamed of their bodies will probably flock to bedsheet shirts with puppies and flowers on them. Women of the younger generation who have generally been treated well despite their weight want to be slightly more fashionable. Anyone in advertising and buisness knows you can sell anything so long as you go about it the right way. If you&#8217;ve got a &#8216;great&#8217; product but it&#8217;s staying on the shelves then you&#8217;re doing something wrong.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Linkage: IFB Links à la Mode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos for a stellar article on a topic that doesn&#039;t receive half the coverage it deserves, from any angle. Alot of really good points made, let me add that the stylish plus-size shoppers I know, myself (6ft, 160ish) included, don&#039;t shop for fashion at Wal-Mart. Period. I&#039;m also going to agree with Ashe &amp; Barry, marketing that actually reaches your target audience would have done the retailers/manufacturers a world of good with regards to their new lines. You can&#039;t just toss out a few ads, even in Vogue, and expect the market to turn in a matter of a few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for a stellar article on a topic that doesn&#8217;t receive half the coverage it deserves, from any angle. Alot of really good points made, let me add that the stylish plus-size shoppers I know, myself (6ft, 160ish) included, don&#8217;t shop for fashion at Wal-Mart. Period. I&#8217;m also going to agree with Ashe &amp; Barry, marketing that actually reaches your target audience would have done the retailers/manufacturers a world of good with regards to their new lines. You can&#8217;t just toss out a few ads, even in Vogue, and expect the market to turn in a matter of a few months.</p>
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